All MMORPG games are the same...

[Demon APX]

From Runescape to WoW to Tales of Pirates, all MMORPG's are the same.

Who here agrees with me?

Yeah, the items are different, yeah the setting is different, but it 's the same basic principle.

1) You make your character.
2) You are just another newbie, running around the streets trying to learn about the came.
3) You train. You work hard. You get fairly good.
4) You strive...and you strive...and you strive...for a certain item/skill/level. Then you reach it. You are exhilirated, you cannot get enough of the item, you are ever so happy...for the first few hours. The item gets tiring, you have nothing more to strive for.
5) You find something else to strive for. You strive...and you strive...and you strive...etc.

It's like a neverending cycle. You just work so hard for something you want and in the end you just end up looking for something else. I learned it the hard way in elementary school and stopped playing Runescape and such because I realised the pattern and found that I would never really be happy.

I cannot really justify if it is the same for a normal RPG, because all I have played is an MMORPG, not just a plain RPG.

Anyone feel the same?

[Manifest Million]

MMORPGs are expensive. The established, low risk route is the only one most developers are willing to take, especially with the economy as it is.

As for why it worked in the first place, it's sort of a social thing about having better stuff. People will spend a LOT just to get stuff that looks better, or has a .01% better stat somewhere. Get them to spend time = get them to spend money = profit.

(I am required to mention that Fallout 3 gave me flashbacks to a time when I gave half-a-damn about Guild Wars. I don't know why.)

[Demon APX]

Yeah, completely agreed.

You always seem to actually know what you're talking about. +1 k. And I love your avatar.

[DestroManiak]

that is a simply an Iignorant and rtard way of thinking
Because:

Every fps is same:
-You see a gun at right bottom side
-r is for reload
-mouse 1 is for shoot
-you have your ammo bar at right side(usually)
-you have your health bar at your left(usually)

Every TPS is the same:
-everything above but you see someone in middle of the screen rather than a gun at right bottom

Every Rpg is the same:
Everything is same as the TPS but you can choose the sentences you may speak when in a cinematic or converstation and you have an inventory bag

Every RTS is the same:
-You start with a worker and build main hall, than you create more workers and send them to mine
-Then you build blacksmith, armory and stuff then you figt and stuff, if ythe game goes on you can change the age
-By holding mouse botton 1 and sliding the mouse you choose the units you want to command

Every TBS(turn based strategy):
-Everything above but you have right to choose 1 command before your enemy does another 1

Every game is the same:
-You kill someonewith weapons according the era the game takes place
-There is a bad guy until the middle opf the story, at middle of the story you kill the bad guy and you learn that "there is someone behind all these things" and at the %99 of the storyline they give the right to choose "you choose the good side and the peace and harmony will take over the world" "youc hoose the bad side and chaos rules the world" and stuuf

EVERY FUCKIN SHIT IS SAME
when you want to consider that way

[Manifest Million]

There are a lot of ways to make MMORPG's interesting. If you look at the games coming out, a huge number of them are  very similar, much more so than any other genre. This trend was pretty apparent to me a few years ago, the main reason I left the "new" Acclaim Games.

[moglet99]

I hate wow it costs a load of money and the quests revolve around: kill x amount of y to get am item that allows you to kill x amount of z!

I do agree with destro.

[DestroManiak]

I hate wow it costs a load of money and the quests revolve around: kill x amount of y to get am item that allows you to kill x amount of z!

I do agree with destro.

btw, I own a mmorpg called guild wars which is free to play AFTER you pay 40euro per camping (you may choose to own 1 camping too )

But when I take it in consider I JUST FUCKIN PITY FOR ARTARDS LIKE ME THAT PLAYED MMORPG'S

for people cannot read it:
"you have played for 1.702hours 21minutes over the past 26 months"

[Slaine]

I know a few people that play MMORPG's but to be honest I never seen the attraction myself. Perhaps I do not have the attention span to play those type of games.

Watching the Pure Pwnage episode where he ends up in hospital after becoming addicted to WOW didn't exactly endear me to the game genre either.

[Demon APX]

that is a simply an Iignorant and rtard way of thinking
Because:

Every fps is same:
-You see a gun at right bottom side
-r is for reload
-mouse 1 is for shoot
-you have your ammo bar at right side(usually)
-you have your health bar at your left(usually)

Every TPS is the same:
-everything above but you see someone in middle of the screen rather than a gun at right bottom

Every Rpg is the same:
Everything is same as the TPS but you can choose the sentences you may speak when in a cinematic or converstation and you have an inventory bag

Every RTS is the same:
-You start with a worker and build main hall, than you create more workers and send them to mine
-Then you build blacksmith, armory and stuff then you figt and stuff, if ythe game goes on you can change the age
-By holding mouse botton 1 and sliding the mouse you choose the units you want to command

Every TBS(turn based strategy):
-Everything above but you have right to choose 1 command before your enemy does another 1

Every game is the same:
-You kill someonewith weapons according the era the game takes place
-There is a bad guy until the middle opf the story, at middle of the story you kill the bad guy and you learn that "there is someone behind all these things" and at the %99 of the storyline they give the right to choose "you choose the good side and the peace and harmony will take over the world" "youc hoose the bad side and chaos rules the world" and stuuf

EVERY FUCKIN SHIT IS SAME
when you want to consider that way

I'm going to ask you to calm down. It's a discussion. Chill, by god.

You still don't see my point. Duh, FPS' are alike, that's why they are under the classification as FPS'. You basically said " In a first-person shooter, you shoot stuff in first person!", and same for all of your other categories. But RPG's are different in the aspect that RPG does not signify work-really-hard-for-stuff-then-get-your-item-and-work-hard-for-another-item. I was pointing out the deeper subconcious actions that go on when playing the game, unlike who who very sarcastically pointed out the very very obvious aspects.

[Manifest Million]

When I played Guild Wars, I had a Ritualist. Got Legendary Survivor, some expensive armor dyed an expensive white, and some unique weapons. I was pretty pimp. But then I realized all I had left was to do the campaigns for their own sake; suddenly I knew I could never play another PvE oriented MMORPG ever again.

Of course, I tried the competitive aspect, but then I realized that Rits only had a handful of viable builds because the lead balancer is on drugs, so PvP sank, too.

I used to have such high hopes, too. I bought all four expansions!


There are a few exceptions, but most of them suck for gameplay. Their main draw is the social aspect, and there are plenty of free chatrooms and instant messaging programs. Too bad they can't actually be fun - fun is risky!

[Demon APX]

When I played Guild Wars, I had a Ritualist. Got Legendary Survivor, some expensive armor dyed an expensive white, and some unique weapons. I was pretty pimp. But then I realized all I had left was to do the campaigns for their own sake; suddenly I knew I could never play another PvE oriented MMORPG ever again.

Of course, I tried the competitive aspect, but then I realized that Rits only had a handful of viable builds because the lead balancer is on drugs, so PvP sank, too.

I used to have such high hopes, too. I bought all four expansions!


There are a few exceptions, but most of them suck for gameplay. Their main draw is the social aspect, and there are plenty of free chatrooms and instant messaging programs. Too bad they can't actually be fun - fun is risky!

Exactly. You strive so hard to achieve your goals that it becomes more of an addiction than fun. And once achieved, you sit there and think..."Now what?"

[DestroManiak]

When I played Guild Wars, I had a Ritualist. Got Legendary Survivor, some expensive armor dyed an expensive white, and some unique weapons. I was pretty pimp. But then I realized all I had left was to do the campaigns for their own sake; suddenly I knew I could never play another PvE oriented MMORPG ever again.

Of course, I tried the competitive aspect, but then I realized that Rits only had a handful of viable builds because the lead balancer is on drugs, so PvP sank, too.

I used to have such high hopes, too. I bought all four expansions!


There are a few exceptions, but most of them suck for gameplay. Their main draw is the social aspect, and there are plenty of free chatrooms and instant messaging programs. Too bad they can't actually be fun - fun is risky!

Exactly. You strive so hard to achieve your goals that it becomes more of an addiction than fun. And once achieved, you sit there and think..."Now what?"

well it havent took me long to say now what, but as I had nothing to do in summer I continued
the thing is its not lesser rewarding than killing your enemy in cod4

I'm going to ask you to calm down. It's a discussion. Chill, by god.

You still don't see my point. Duh, FPS' are alike, that's why they are under the classification as FPS'. You basically said " In a first-person shooter, you shoot stuff in first person!", and same for all of your other categories. But RPG's are different in the aspect that RPG does not signify work-really-hard-for-stuff-then-get-your-item-and-work-hard-for-another-item. I was pointing out the deeper subconcious actions that go on when playing the game, unlike who who very sarcastically pointed out the very very obvious aspects.

Im not mad or somethin, I just get too excited sometime 
I donno why

[Demon APX]

When I played Guild Wars, I had a Ritualist. Got Legendary Survivor, some expensive armor dyed an expensive white, and some unique weapons. I was pretty pimp. But then I realized all I had left was to do the campaigns for their own sake; suddenly I knew I could never play another PvE oriented MMORPG ever again.

Of course, I tried the competitive aspect, but then I realized that Rits only had a handful of viable builds because the lead balancer is on drugs, so PvP sank, too.

I used to have such high hopes, too. I bought all four expansions!


There are a few exceptions, but most of them suck for gameplay. Their main draw is the social aspect, and there are plenty of free chatrooms and instant messaging programs. Too bad they can't actually be fun - fun is risky!

Exactly. You strive so hard to achieve your goals that it becomes more of an addiction than fun. And once achieved, you sit there and think..."Now what?"

well it havent took me long to say now what, but as I had nothing to do in summer I continued
the thing is its not lesser rewarding than killing your enemy in cod4

Oh trust me I know how you feel. I played Runescape for years. I got pretty good. Then I woke up and smelled the roses, dropped everything I had and quit in one day.

Eh it's a bit different. I can't really explain it, it just is. I think it's just the period of time. You get kills a few times a minute. It can take you months to get an item in an RPG. You really dedicate yourself to your cause a lot more over that long time period.

Oh yeah and it's k lol we cool ^_^

[Cabeere]

From Runescape to WoW to Tales of Pirates, all MMORPG's are the same.

Who here agrees with me?

Yeah, the items are different, yeah the setting is different, but it 's the same basic principle.

1) You make your character.
2) You are just another newbie, running around the streets trying to learn about the came.
3) You train. You work hard. You get fairly good.
4) You strive...and you strive...and you strive...for a certain item/skill/level. Then you reach it. You are exhilirated, you cannot get enough of the item, you are ever so happy...for the first few hours. The item gets tiring, you have nothing more to strive for.
5) You find something else to strive for. You strive...and you strive...and you strive...etc.

It's like a neverending cycle. You just work so hard for something you want and in the end you just end up looking for something else. I learned it the hard way in elementary school and stopped playing Runescape and such because I realised the pattern and found that I would never really be happy.

I cannot really justify if it is the same for a normal RPG, because all I have played is an MMORPG, not just a plain RPG.

Anyone feel the same?

+K get!!!

[Archaeo Umbra]

Well it's not bad I mean I like gathering up a party and doing whatever there is to do (Mostly kill things or people though). MMOs are all about the people and that's what the game requires mostly to make it a success; people also add longevity to the game, giving you another reason to keep logging on and playing.